Steven: “Hi, nice to meet you. I’m Steven. What’s your name?”
DeShawn: “My name? It’s DeShawn.”
Steven: “Good to meet you, DeShawn. How long you been out here?”
DeShawn: “Been going around since I was about twenty-one so what it’s been like 12 years.”
Steven: “That’s a long time. What got you here, if you don’t mind me asking?”
DeShawn: “I had a construction job and I ended up getting injured. My back was torn out and I couldn’t work there anymore, but my boss gave me some help to go to the hospital and get it treated and I had surgery done and everything and the doctor prescribed me a bottle of painkillers, opioids, and I ended getting up…getting addicted. Just addicted.”
Steven: “And it all started because of your back pain?”
DeShawn: “Yeah. The pills run out and I went looking for anything to stop the pain. It got way too expensive so I ended going to the street because it’s cheaper, easier to find and also I’m not eligible for any drugs from my doctor.”
Steven: “Have you ever tried to get clean?”
DeShawn: “Plenty of times. I detoxed on some shelter floor once, and honestly I thought I was gonna die there. I had cold sweats, shaking, throwing up… it felt like my bones were trying to crawl outta my skin. I just couldn’t handle it anymore and also I know I still don’t have anywhere to go and my life was just terrible and I relied on drugs to help me…forget. Right now, I’m trying again, and I really think I can do it this time.”
Steven: “Of course, I believe in you! Do you have people around you? Family? Friends?”
DeShawn: “I had my family with me.. yeah. My mom, she tried to help. She really did, but she passed a few years back because of diabetes. I wasn’t clean when it happened and still not now. I still remember struggling to get money for her funeral and I had to go into debt just to do that. I don’t have any brother or father. Just me and my mom.”
Steven: “I’m sorry…that’s really hard to handle”
DeShawn: “Yeah and for friends it depends on what you mean by friends. Lotta dudes out here you nod at, maybe share a smoke with. You watch each other’s stuff when you can. But real friends aren’t a thing here. Those don’t exist really when you’re chasing a high more than you’re chasing your own life.”
Steven: “Wow… from my other interviews, I was told that it’s important to have people you can trust out here, but it seems like you have a different perspective, which is really interesting.”
DeShawn: “A lot of people around here are drug dealers and addicts and as an addict myself, I know and have seen stuff that have made me who I am.”
Steven: “Do you mind sharing some of the things you’ve experienced?”
DeShawn: “You ever seen someone OD right in front of you? I had a buddy of mine, his name was Big Derek and I still remember so clearly that we were laughing together and the next day, I went to our meet up spot and his dealer told me that he overdosed last night. There was no goodbyes and I’ve seen that more times than I can count. Not just to me but for so many people out here.”
Steven: “Dang…that’s really hard to even imagine…I’m sorry you had to go through that.”
DeShawn: “It’s just normal out here. You can’t get too close. People disappear. They get locked up, they get shot, they OD. Sometimes they just give up and leave, and you never hear about them again. You learn real fast: if you start depending on people too much, you’re gonna get hurt.”
Steven: “If there’s anything you want people to understand about what it’s like being out here, what would it be?”
DeShawn: “That we’re humans. Some of us might be addicts but the truth is, we are just broken people trying to fix ourselves with whatever we got left. And sometimes, you get tired. Not cause you’re weak but life just becomes really unfortunate, and nobody ever taught you how to get back up so treat everyone out here like a human.”
Steven: “That’s real. I appreciate you saying that.”
DeShawn: “It’s not easy talking about it. Lot easier pretending you don’t feel nothing.”
Steven: “I hear you. You’re not invisible, though. People should hear stories like yours.”
DeShawn: “Thank you”
Steven: “One last thing. If you have three wishes right now, what would they be?”
DeShawn: “I would wish for everyone in the world who are addicts to not be addicts anymore and after that happens, I don’t want no drug dealers so people won’t end up like me. That’s honestly all I wish for because I know what it’s like.”
Steven: “That’s what’s up. I respect that a lot and honestly, that would be my wish as well. It was great talking to you DeShawn, and next time we come back again, I know that you’ll be doing better and you’ll break free from your addiction. Thank you so much for having this interview with me, and I’m sure everyone will support you.”
DeShawn: “Thank you”
It hit me when DeShawn said he detoxed on a shelter floor and thought he was going to die. Like nobody thinks about how brutal getting clean can be if you don’t have no support
Yeah, that part made me stop for a second too. Like imagine how much pain he went through just trying to survive a process most people who have friends and family members supporting them and he doesn’t have anyone
When he talked about losing his mom and being in debt for her funeral, that completely made me cry NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO THROUGH THAT LIKE THAT
Same when I read that I could feel that he still beats himself up for not being clean when she passed.
when my mom passed it was the worse day of my life… I can’t even imagine what he went through without having anyone else with him
the fact that he was poor and still went in debt for her is so amazing and sad at the same time.
The part about ‘friends’ was so sad but honest. When I was homeless, that was the unspoken rule and we can’t really anyone out there
This was so shocking to me because I never thought of it like that. You can’t even trust people the way we normally think of friendship
Great work on asking the follow up question and treating him with respect! Awesome interview once again
Thank you so much!
When DeShawn talked about how he saw so many people overdose is so true. I don’t think people realize how common that is
Literally became numb to it during my time when I was an addict.
How are you doing right now if you don’t mind me asking?
3 years clean and having a child in the summer!
I’ve lost a friend to opioids and it hurts so much. I still feel the pain and it’s been over 5 years so when I read this I’m glad he didn’t sugarcoat it or nothing
Also lost a friend to drugs and people don’t truly understand how it feels when someone dies right in front of you unless you experienced it yourself
Me too… lost my father because of it and that’s why I’ll never do drugs
One of the most honest and humanizing interviews I’ve read. His wish wasn’t even about himself and that says everything about the kind of person he is
You asked some good questions! Good stuff man
Thank you!
Agree the way you show empathy and not pity is how journalists should approach interviews like this
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it
I’m glad DeShawn is getting the help he needs and if you’re reading this DeShawn, it’ll be tough but trust me, you will look back and be so thankful you made it through
Did the same thing and can def say it’s going to be very hard, there’s going to be many times he will relapse but at the end it WILL BE WORTH ITTT
Saying how it’s normal to just see people die is some next level crazy. I do hope that DeShawn can recover from this