Steven: “Hi, I’m Steven. What’s your name?”
Malik: “Malik. Nice to meet you, man.”
Steven: “Nice to meet you too, Malik. We’re in Harlem, right?”
Malik: “Yeah, right off 135th. It’s changed a lot over the years for sure and I know that because it’s where I grew up.”
Steven: “How has it changed?
Malik: “The stores aren’t what they used to be. There used to be a chicken place down the street right over there and they serve pipping hot fried chicken that me and friends used to go to after school. It was cheap and look at it now. It’s been replaced by a laundry store and also the people, man. They’re all over money now I can’t blame them because it’s hard out here. They don’t want to end up like me.”
Steven: I see what you mean. I live in the same neighborhood for the past 10 years of my life and things have changed there too…how long have you been out here?”
Malik: “Coming up on 6 years. Feels like a lifetime some days, but other days it feels like it’s only been a few months. Time’s weird when you’re out here.”
Steven: “Yeah… 6 years is a long time…what happened, if you don’t mind sharing?”
Malik: “It was a mix of bad luck and bad timing. I worked in a barbershop so cutting hair was my thing. But the shop closed during the pandemic, and I couldn’t find work after that. I’d been staying in a studio apartment, just scraping by, but once the income stopped, the landlords came asking for the rent and guess what, I didn’t have any money to give so I was evicted.”
Steven: “I’m sorry to hear that. The pandemic has created a lot of financial problem for many… do you still cut hair?”
Malik: “Yeah, whenever I can. I keep my clippers in my backpack. Sometimes I set up on a corner and give haircuts for a few bucks or even for free if someone really needs it. A fresh cut can change how someone feels about themselves. It’s small, but it matters.”
Steven: “That’s amazing. I need a haircut soon, so I’ll come to you…do you have a dream of getting back into a barbershop?”
Malik: “I do, but not just as a barber for some store. I want to own one, but not a fancy spot but just a place where people feel like they belong there. A real community hub, somewhere nice and cozy with a certain mood that anyone can walk in and feel it. Somewhere kids can come after school, where people can talk and laugh and do homework. The local barbershops I grew up around isn’t just a place for people to get a haircut. It’s like a home for everyone. You walk in and strike up a conversation and man, I miss it so much.
Steven: “That’s a powerful statement. Yeah… that’s how you know it means a lot when it hits deep. What’s been the hardest part for you?”
Malik: “The judgment. People see you on the street and assume the worst. I had a guy that came up to me and told me that I’m lazy, on drugs, whatever. They don’t think about how quickly life can change. I was working, paying bills, doing everything right, and one curveball knocked me down. It could happen to anyone.”
Steven: “Yeah, that’s definitely true. We have to be grateful for what we have right now. How do you stay positive?”
Malik: “I focus on the good days. Like when I give someone a haircut, and they walk away smiling. Or when a stranger stops to talk to me like you’re doing now. Those little moments remind me that not everyone’s out to judge or ignore you.”
Steven: “That’s great to hear. I’m glad your days getting better and I do wish that more people are willing to talk to the homeless because it means a lot to them… do you have anyone you trust out here?”
Malik: “Yeah, there’s a guy named Big Mike. He’s been out here even longer than me. He used to run a food truck. He’s like a big brother to everyone on this block. If you’re in a tight spot, Mike’s the guy who’ll share what little he has. He’s seen it all, and he always has a motto that goes: ‘If you’re breathing, you’ve still got a shot.'”
Steven: “I love that quote. Out here, besides cutting hair, what do you do to pass the time?”
Malik: “I write. Mostly journal entries, but sometimes I’ll even do little sketches of what my dream barbershop would look like. Writing helps me process everything because the world feels too big sometimes and uncertain, so when I write or draw about it, it’s so much smaller. It also makes me feel like I have control over it because I’m the one drawing or writing.”
Steven: “That’s a really cool hobby. Someone else I interviewed likes to write poetry… maybe you can try that out…is there something about you that would surprise people?”
Malik: “I used to box. Throw a jab, a hook, and uppercut so I do know the basic but nothing pro, otherwise I wouldn’t be out here. My dad taught me when I was a teenager…it was our thing. He’d take me to the gym, and we’d spar. I haven’t put on gloves in years, but sometimes I shadowbox, so I don’t lose my touch.”
Steven: “Boxing is amazing… I’ve always been fasincated by it, and especially out here, you need to defend yourself…do you think you’ll ever box again?”
Malik: “I’d love to, but not to fight, but just to train and defend myself like you said. There’s been a lot of robbery lately and I gotta protect my belonging somehow. Also boxing taught me discipline, focus. Those are things I try to hold onto, even now. Now that I think about it, life’s a lot like the ring…you’ve got to stay on your toes and keep swinging, even when you’re tired.”
Steven: “That’s a really unique comparison and I agree with you! You gotta stay on your toes… good stuff… now, if you had three wishes, what would they be?”
Malik: “Three wishes? Lemme think. First, I’d wish for a stable place to live. Just a small spot to call my own. Second, I’d wish for my barbershop to become a reality like the ones I drew in my sketchbook…a place where I can give back to the community. And my third wish is that I’d wish for my dad to see me get back on my feet. He passed a few years ago, but I think about him every day. I want to make him proud.”
Steven: “Truly amazing Malik, thank you for sharing your story. You’ve been through so much, but you’re still fighting. That’s inspiring.”
Malik: “Thanks. It feels good to talk about it. And hey, if you ever need a haircut, come find me. First one’s on the house.”
This interview really touched me. Malik, your perspective on life despite the hard times gives me hope. Sending positive vibes your way!
Never judge a man till you’ve walked a mile in his shoes
This is so true because we don’t know what everyone went through. We just look at them and assume that the worst. So many people have been impacted by covid-19 and still are, so everyone shouldn’t judge people
The idea of a barbershop that doubles as a community center is brilliant. It shows how entrepreneurial spirit thrives, even in the toughest times.
AND HE KNOWS HOW TO BOX???? That’s actually so talented because boxing is hard and I know because I’m trying to be a boxer too.
He says that he doesn’t box professionally, but even then, the fact that he knows how to box and protect himself is impressive. Kudos to him!
Great job on this interview. I can see that you’re improving
Thank you so much!
So much light in his words. May he be blessed with a place of his own. My sense is that he’s a gentle and loving soul who has accepted his circumstances
the way he talks about his dad really breaks my heart so I’m really glad that he learned boxing for his dad.
I think in general the homeless should learn how to protect themselves. It’s a really dangerous world we live in, especially for those with no home so they’re the most likely to be in danger
His strength is inspiring. Bless this person ❤️
Yes! Totally. Like the way he talks about shadowboxing because it reminds me of his dad that’s so amazing
This ain’t some random homeless guy. This is you. This is me. We’re all in this together
What does this mean?
It’s a saying that we’re all human and we should help each other because we have to remember that this can happen to anyone of us. It’s similar to “treat others the way you want to be treated” because you don’t know what might happen to you
Ohh, okay yeah that makes sense. sorry english isn’t my first language
He is a good man, I can tell. He deserves a better life
I agree. Seeing this makes me sad
I wish more people can see this so they can understand how painful it is to be homeless and also it’ll allow for more people to help out the homeless. Let them be more appreciative of what they have.
My office is near where Malik is. I used to see him once a week and chat and buy coffee for him. Such a great guy
That’s awesome. I respect this so much.
Yes! Thank you so much Dunning. I wish more people would help the homeless, but people like you are trying so I appreciate it
The sadness in his words is haunting
It really is, especially after seeing all the talent Malik has from cutting hair to boxing… I bet not a lot of people in the world know how to do either so this is truly a talented person and it sucks to see it being wasted and no one is willing to help
Breaks my heart to see genuine people suffering like this
yeah, just from this interview, you can tell that he’s a nice dude. I bet if someone else was struggling and he had a bit of money, he would help them. I know I would
When I see the lotteries getting so huge I dream about helping people like this on a larger scale.
THATS SO TRUEEE. I would do the same because if i have money and rich, I would give back for sure
From a street person perspective who has turned it around , this guy can do it’s he’s ready to change so please don’t let him go to waste
Thank you so much for your kind words Jonathan! I’m glad things are working out for you
This is so sad. It truly breaks my heart
Yeah, I think the point of these interviews is to bring awareness to other people so they can help out their local communities. Even if it’s as simple as saying “good morning” is enough.
If someone who works directly for the city can see this and think this way, I think we can actually create policies that can directly help the lives of those who are struggling
What happened to this man can happen to anyone so be nice and appreciate what you have at the very least. If possible, try giving back
Yeah that’s the scary part. Like just imagining what might happen, which is why if I have pocket change, I am more than eager to give it to them
What a real one
Real
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